quiet_tiger | The (New) Batman

Today was apparently the season premier of The Batman.

Thank God someone had been talking about this season somewhere, so I was somewhat prepared for the appearance of Batgirl. I hadn't been expecting it to be so soon, though.

My major qualms about the episode:

They changed the theme song to some 60s-sounding thing. I had grown to really enjoy the old theme song. I *hate* when shows change their theme songs. It really bothers me.
Batgirl shouldn't even freaking be there. I forget what that person said the reason was for introducing her instead of Robin. But why is she there? Robin should be there. Batman should have taken in Dick, watched the poor boy suffer, and then train him to be Robin. I've never understood why canonical things are changed in anything, like in Batman and Robin, where Batgirl was Alfred's niece. What was up with that? It's just very jarring to see Batgirl without Robin. I've never cared for Batgirl anyway, so it's just extra irksome. It's just skewing everything.
They introduced Poison Ivy. Except it's more like Poison Ivy's deliquent sister. Pamela Isley is a friend of Barbara Gordon's, and she's an environmentalist who is rebelling against chemical companies. She gets covered in a chemical solution used to manipulate plant growth. She's a teenager. It's so WRONG. Poison Ivy is, like, the Gotham female sex symbol (other than Catwoman, I suppose), with her sexy little green unitard, her phallic plants and vines everywhere (and we all know that flowers are always used for allusions to female genitalia in literature), and her damn manipulations of pheremones ("She's trying to kill you, Dick"). The boys all lust after her because of said pheremones. So... how is it right to make her a teenager? It's just creepy. Joke about Batman and his intentions toward Dick, but this is a whole different kind of pedophilia. I'm not sure what message it's sending to kids, if any, but it can't be good.
It looks like Barbara is a Batman watcher one night, then Batgirl the next. Um... no. I can't imagine Batman recognizing that Barbara is good at gymnastics (is that canon?) and handing her the little Batgirl outfit just because. Dick at least got trained. And does she now know who Batman is?

I'll just have to watch next week for the episode's conclusion. But, if I'm as appalled then as I am now, I can't see me watching it for much longer, which is really unfortunate because I really liked the show.

In other news, procrastination, thy name is Batman. I have zero interest in the work I have to do for one of my classes, so after I got sick of working on it today (way before schedule) I took a walk around town. I wound up at the comicbook store. (monkeyputz, Newbury Comics does sell comics- they just don't have a great selection). After scrounging for DC stuff- the shop annoyingly seems to prefer Marvel- I picked up volumes one and two of Hush, which I've been meaning to get for a couple of months. So I'm excited.

Do I have time to read them? No.

Do I have the money for them? Barely.

But I wanted them, I was in a rotten mood, and I realized that other than food and two movie tickets, I haven't spent any money since I moved. And I wanted to splurge on myself, as I felt it necesary. So there.

And it's weird, since I added communities and some other people to my Friends list, my Friends page has been pretty dead. I hope everyone's okay.

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I *hate* the new The Batman! *hate* it. All the cool is gone. What the hell--what made them think it needed changing? Damn!!

Heh, I was just horrified when I watched it tonight. My major compliants with the first season were mainly around how unrealistic the fight scenes were (the Penguin a martial arts master? Excuse me?) But today I kept talking to myself, asking out loud why the heck everything was all sucktacular. I just feel like I missed a lot somehow, even though I thought I've seen almost every episode.

As I said, I just don't understand why stupid Batgirl is there at all. It really bothers me. Now it's probably just going to turn all kiddyish and not appeal to anyone remorely grown up anymore. It's not in a great timeslot for what it is, anyway, but that doesn't mean they have to dumb it down. And the theme song change lends itself to that switch, too, more kiddyish than a good theme.

I'll give it a few more episodes (the last few before this one were pretty strong, I thought), but if it still grates on me, I'm going to have to give it up. Thank God I have a bunch of last season's episodes on tape (because sometimes I am obsessive like The Bat).

And I'm really glad I'm not the only one who is disappointed!

No, it's not just you--and after last season's incredible Joker episode-- "Batman needs...a Joker." Oh my goodness, I was besides myself! and then --patoooiiiee!

I'm still thinking about a Batman/Joker fic--that ep made my brain explode.

There is quite a bit of Joker/Batman fic out there, which while I'm sure it's disturbing it oddly fits. They're both crazy and everything, and Bruce must just be so lonely... But I like the Joker in the cartoon, even though a lot of people don't. The way he wanders around without shoes and in a straight jacket- he's actually scary. You can *see* the crazy, which you don't in some other incarnations. The Animated Series Joker just wasn't that scary. This one is. At least to me.

And with Bruce so clearly pining for attention from the Clown Prince of Crime, well, you just have to take what's given to you. :)

But, I thought "Batman needs... a Robin?" ;)

But, I thought "Batman needs... a Robin?"

Right!!! Which made the Joker line the funniest creepiest slashiest line of all time! I'm thrilled to pieces that you find the Joker truly scary--he is! You really understand that not only is he nuts, but he's really dangerously killer-style nuts, not just the annoying loony-tunes he is in the other cartoons. And of course I *love* this Joker. I was disappointed in the Penguin, mildly amused by the Man-Bat, and really upset I didn't see all of the Clay-Face ep, but the Joker--they outdid themselves each time out! *grin*

Sorry, I just don't get to talk about this show much. lol! Does it show? ;)

Dude, I never get to talk about this show because no one else watches it! But now we can talk about it together!

"Which made the Joker line the funniest creepiest slashiest line of all time!"

That's really quite disturbing, that they actually played off of that line with the Joker. Really disturbing.

I was watching an ep over New Year's when I was at my Uncle's house. I was trying to get my cousin to watch with me- she was 8 at the time- and it was the first episode I saw with Joker in it. She didn't seem too thrilled about the show, but for a Nickelodeon/MTV watching kid these days, a show with emotion and plot is just too advanced. Anyway. As I was watching it, there were so many closeups of his eyes, and a part where the eyes were all that you saw, and it was damn creepy!

Batman:TAS just really doesn't do The Joker justice. I mean, Joker is like THE Batman villain. He killed Jason. He paralyzed Barbara. And yet he's not always taken seriously. This Joker I can actually see being a real threat. Heck, he turned poor what's-his-name into Clayface! He's a real threat!

Catwoman's ginormous goggles kind of throw me. I think The Penguin is okay. I'd never heard of Man-Bat before, so I couldn't have an opinion. What do you think of The Riddler? Just what in the heck is going on with him? He has that Marilyn Manson thing going on for some reason. I half expect him to break out into shitty rock and role whenever he's onscreen. Or, write bad gothic poetry or something.

That was the thing about The Batman--even though BatmanTAS was supposed to be aimed at youth and adults, TB really hit that adult market I think. The ywere sly and witty and kind of subversive. That Batgirl--yack! she brings the tone down.

Cat woman's goggles--I think they're yanking the inspiration for that image from the books, maybe?

Oooooh, right--that strange dude with the staff is the Riddler? I only caught a few seconds of an ep with him, so I can't say. The Riddler always struck me as a half-wit--kind of a low rent Joker. (not obessed, no!)

Yeah, I think the shows are different. but Batgirl is just totally going to shift everything. And it's going to be sad. Maybe she won't be in every episode; I really wish they had just kept it Batman for longer. This is going to cut into Alfred's time, too, which sucks because I really like Alfred in this show. The earlier eps all ended with a sweet little Alfred-Bruce moment, which was nice.

I just really can't believe they made Poison Ivy a teen- that's just screwing everything up in itself. I guess it's good it's a new villain, instead of just Joker, Catwoman, and Penguin over and over and over.

Yeah, probably Catwoman's goggles are taken from the comics. But they're just so awkward-looking.

Yeah, the long-haired dude in green with the staff is the Riddler. He's a kind of weird character. Different than you might expect, anyway. I always liked the Riddler, but yeah, he doesn't really serve a purpose most of the time except to annoy poor Batman.

I wonder who else they're going to bring in this season. Who else is left? Scarecrow, the Calendar Man, I dunno.

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